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1. Keeping Dingos (requirements information 2Mb zip) , Wolves and Wolf-Dog Hybrids
2. Dingo Conservation (Dingos are becoming extinct)
2b. Dhole (Cuon alpinus) Southern Asian Wild Dog
3. What is and are Canine comparitively
4. Dingo Safety - Fraser Island
5. Get yourselves a Dingo, destroy all Pit Bull and Rottweilers!!!(note: at 4 y.o. that remains SPLAT!!! regardless the breed)
6. Why indescriminately slaughter wildlife?
7. (PDF) The possible origin of Dingos in Australia

Wolves are not for careless, lazy, cheap or broke, or mentally psychopathic people

(context of "compulsively" pysically violent: e.g. drunks , prize fighters , *1 gang members , children holding cake in their hand(s))

Work dogs are simply, and particularly *2 packs of them are, something to both "be competantly cautionately aware of" and with "handling experience of either packs or more aggressive temperament animals", to ever bother to temporarily handle or be in presence of in a sheep wheat farming region.

Wolves themselves while different only means being experienced and proficient at handling larger more aggressive familiaris and to "bother to keep one sensibly in the guidlines of its needs" rather than attempt to create a set and forget family pet dog.This means you must also be prepared to be interrupted from your normal routine "whenever required" for safety and handling consolidation.

To this time i know of no farmers that commit to such an action with their familiaris work dogs that are not classed as incompetent, and there is no such canid (familiaris) for farming that can be treated so carelessly or recklessly as to think that e.g. something as simple such as yelling "quiet" means that it will truly ever take effect on time and/or permanently for purpose of a nights sleep.

Animals are a living entity not a robot, no matter how much obedience or tolerence they display and negligence against their own individual personality, neglect of emotional bond and rank by boredom are as easily achieved in familiaris to dangerous levels of your own worths to it(Your life and feelings can quickly become not a value to the animal).

If you want an unusual pet but are not prepared to have the requirements of this larger more aggressive canid(with more instincted compulsively emotivated activities, and, displays by more exagerated emotional physical isms of emotional expression outright)then that can easily be as much as your choice to die and can achive knowing that, purely by, looking at the statistics of familiaris to these natural keeping requirements.

In short, familiaris canids are a genetic physical criple and decrepit by lack of genetic diversity of their individual breeds that has resulted in them being uneffective and unefficient outside of numbers, when causing effect on prey populations when attempting survival in the wild environment unlike wolves.
So too can be the effect of that efficiency upon a person committing self defense against a canid at its natural job when negligence has occurred, and of that point, familiaris could well commit the same for the same levels of negligence(transparently of species difference).

*1 (Trust me! Treat this one as a recommendation, not a legal ordinance) Sure you'd keep one if you want to, but a wolf has both a short fuse, and an excessive excitabillity with aggressive people and could in some way be copying you in a context of fighting if it "attacks you or someone else randomly", of with you it would simply be playing and "copying your behavior"(*some of the reason for the " 'imprint' article link in this page"), so note that wolves in the wild play-fight naturally and sometimes accidentally kill the opponent. There is a YouTube video of around five wolves moving a moose or buffalo carcase 20 times or more their weight. That is alike five dogs dragging a loaded station wagon or loaded utility or loaded pick-up, uphill with their teeth by the bump protection bar. Consider it is another "weight lifter" in the room at it being 50cm-70cm or just under 2-2 1/4 ft tall.

*2 can be, as unsafe as safe, or as safe as unsafe, to be near, when you're a stranger or aquaintence of them(work dog pack), whichever way you wish to interpret this sentence.

I cannot agree that it does justice to pure wolves as much hybrids of Lupus to ever say,

believe or declare wolves are unkeepable except by specialists or that it requires a truly

specialist physical environment either

To derive them being too dangerous for ordinary people to keep on their(wolves') own being

is an unaccurate assessment of them

Read all of this and be able at all the criteria! or do not hold any blame against your wolf or wolf dog if an attack occurs upon yourself or others

Before getting any further, READ THIS PAGE and 1st LINK:

Link: READ THIS 1st: Wolf Park section relating "IMPRINT"
I do not totally agree with the page because it only mentions these problems being common in context to regularity of behavior or problem facet. Nothings perfect but much of any "special" requirements for a breed belong to those whom can supply the special needs so it only comes to degenerate excessively crude legal paranoid governed(driven) statistics that contain no true level of particularised peoples "canid keeping ability" for incident and problem when trying to reflect a value of the level of the problem by something similar to achievement based testing of profficiency.
OK , so it's true, some canids are more difficult than others or less comprehended than others, but when they are comprehended then they are no more dangerous than Familiaris.

READ THIS 2nd:

Every visit to a pet forum website you will find row upon row of questions that always relate to why their new puppy is becoming aggressive or biting them.
These are dogs that for the past 10,000 years have been domesticated, not wolves but the problem can easily be the same.
Owners are often frustrated saying about that undue aggression,

I bought it every toy i could find...
It eats well and gets attention...
We never miss taking it for walks...
It has a big back yard and we try to play with it...

While the recommendation is to remove wolf pups at an extremely early point, it remains the same for them also to rationalise that they are a dog and not a human, and its existence is the entity it is, not a human or misfit.
It is important that an hour a day is with another pup for play and that rationalisation to embedd along with observing other full grown dogs e.g. at a dog freindly park when many owners walk and exercise their dogs.

READ THIS 3rd: What is the best situation and person for a Dingo?

Unfortunately it is a little alike Quote: Monty Python "The best wife for an Australian, A wealthy nymphomaniac that owns a pub"

Required situation and owner
1. A medium to large Canines' life and care experience
2. Money (an important tool as recommended by Major Denis Bloodnock of "the Goon Show")
3. Stable living locale and family relationships with space or obtainable space such as a park at the minimum
4. Physical fitness and dedication above other aside activities(meaning the dingo is the main hobby)

First, The type of physical locale environment should not be actual farmland, but similar, space is important.
It should be "on the edge of a town or city" not among continuously bordered Agricultural land(or it will require better than simply local and outlying local farmers acceptance and knowledge of). A medium small town the size of Stroud NSW e.g. with 10 and 20 acre blocks is perfect, but Stroud itself unfortunately is within 50Km of National Parks and Forests(Stroud itself is actually bordered by State Forest not a place to keep a Dingo, its simply size and population in this example, suburban plan density minimum example). You should not keep a dingo any closer(50Km) to a National park except if your keeping/care/handling experience and knowledge and wish all add together as keeping one among local substance population, local peoples acceptance cooperativeness willing(300% experience and ability).
Other good examples are (These are only for point some of them have Small Reserves or State Parks , Recreational Areas "not real Forest or National Park"): Wagga Wagga NSW , Bedigo Vic. , Wollongong NSW , Cootamundra NSW.
you can well comprehend looking on a map that the "New England NSW" Area (a block of around 150Km accross from the East coast to 500Km vertically) in Australia is not ideal nor sensible to keep a pet Dingo because it is absolutely loaded with livestock farmland but particularly National Park and National Forest and Conservation legal designations.

About the type of person, Physical phitness. Lets imply a scenario here. The person is later middle aged, and just been told by the doctor they are reaching obese and their job involves some regular manual labor day to day and they smoke but their heart never misses a beat and they can handle stress.
This is the very last one possibly, as the initial personal keeper(Human Alpha).
It is important that it is possible for the intial person to be physically fit enough to play(play bow) with the animal directly on their knees and all around them are able to too.
The more direct interaction by physically playing enabled the better(e.g. Gymnasts as a great contrast here).
There is much a gymnast can do to get the dingo out of trouble at a e.g. park for example, because they can rush and reach and handle the animal if required. Dingoes as demonstrated at the next site(discovery) have immense agility,speed and flexibility so can twist and turn and put themselves into trouble with others in no time.At a park it is not uncommon to watch someone whom has come over to talk to you that says "what a lovely little doggy you have can i..." as their hand moves forward and down toward the shoulders behind the head of the dog. But the trouble arises with a dingo that unlike a domestic dog and the simple position of the head by flexibility finalised in a picture in the next site, it does not show you that with a dingo that has the problem of the persons hand able to be instantly bitten by the dingoes head. So lets adjust this meeting to "what a lovely little doggy you have can i..." SNAP!!!! "yeeeooowwwch!!!". flicking up and back until the top of its head is almost touching its spine on its back and its lower jaw is the highest point above it.

If the previous is as good and optimal as above for locale situation and your children are 10 years old or more maybe a year or two less for boys (and/or their experience of handling big dogs as pets), then the calibre of person to head the family group as prime controller(remembering the animal is to be set below all the humans in rank) can be as simple as basic experienced pet canine owner.
However, that experience should be a more powerful and aggressive breed for the experience level such as a Kelpie, Cattle Dog or Border Collie. For Golden retriever owners, "Nuttin here!!!" , Golden retrievers just love people and children and thats that, they are not without their peculiarities for aggressive problems, but these animals(Wolves and Work Dog breeds) are energy loaded and require some of their integration and establishment at some time as physically bickering, not just teaching bite inhibition, Moreover dingoes are partly reactively driven in psychology in bickering with their reflexes and the hardest to realise of all in being bitten undeadly(not a play bite but similar to bluffing) is "if it ever says it by" a fang and curled lips and crouched-creeping-wadle toward you(often just rubbish for real danger to you as the boss/Alpha but it would be feeling disappointed and angry about something, note: A similar action but rare also is called "craving(questioning, humbley imploring recount on the vote for its own purposes)", it appears more like grovelling).

"Dingoes are not unalike a Kelpie when let out or off their chain", After they get away and you get to the other side of the house you require to yell to call it back by which time it has made 800 meters. At 1km it will have slowed down and turned, then after the full 30 seconds to a minute since you let it go it will be putting the brakes on and reaching you 1-2Km later(2km was the distance for Anubus but the actual time is not mentioned here only because it is for much to that effect anyhow, About 1Km circumference around my late uncle Johns house was standard to each of his Kelpies and X-breeds except Mardy(a Sausage dog)).

And now
Link: OWN YOUR OWN DINGO

(NEW!) FORUM casual discussion/ideas of Topical info about wolves

More information Links (Miscelanious Your choice to read it)

(PDF) The possible origin of Dingos in Australia

Hyper carnivores' teeth
partially omnivorous hypercarnivore showing its teeth

(PDF) Silver Fox domestication experiment

Endangered Wild Canid species site (Many useful articles and links)

As standardised domestic dog puppy raising article

Behavioral videos (below @ YouTube.com)

Coyote committing territorial aggression(perfect canid example) at its boundary

Wolf dog Hybrids being human(fighting for the comfy chair)

Zoo kept wolves being exhibited directly and keeping hierarchy rank

Tamed Lupus with and at a passive mood

Injured wolf being pursued by help (canines do not show much direct emotion in pain more only point of shock)

Coyote wandering into human presence and territory

The same old problem of conservation of wild animals is economics because their impact on human territory by wandering causes trouble.

It is not reasonable to say to a farmer in e.g. the Bale mountains Ethiopia to not use fertile land for farming that can save his families life. Again it is not reasonable that a farmer in Ethiopia should sit and watch and tolerate Wolves being produced and re-supplied to a frivolously declared land space that is in a war zone where the motto is .."if it moves shoot it or Aerial bomb it"... while he and his family starve to death.
That is a rude action upon human life.

These particualar animals are Canidae and through history have even had appointed wild dog keepers in ancient civilisations, not merely handlers.
However if you wish to dig that out of old ancient text you will find that the keepers earned a wage and there is no escape from economics at any turn.

What we do not have, (as human boundaries encroach on wilderness and less tolerence of wild creatures becomes greater because of difficulties they incurr) is a way of caring for them and "housing them"(not literal , as a figure of speech) so they can be continued in purity while we adjust to being able to manage our earth and natural resources.

In the US the difficulties of managing wild canidae are no different to Bale mountains Ethiopia for the point of not or suffering lost production as a farmer. In the US economic system two types of insurance can be obtained for lost production life insurance and direct loss to production (the latter really being the applicable in this context) but that itself to have, commits a heavy cost, and many in farming really are not allowed(granted) logistically such cover by insurance companies because there is no substantive measurement of whether a season would succeed whether agronomic or livestock.

Canidae at least have some management points large Cats do not, wild canidae are partially omnivorous and they do form obvious groups with a hierarchy making it possible to perform simple inter-species communication that is more effective and less dangerous than the felidae hyper-carnivore.

This point is where they become more able to be managed , saved , conserved either temporarily or permanently.

If people whom either have the experience, or money to learn to keep these animals can be picked on to be keepers at a more personal and/or sponsored level then there is a resource of keepers for any of these wild canidae in requirement.

In Australia, there are many experienced seasonal workers whom could shift across from doing roundups with pack canidae(Kelpies and Heelers/Cattle Dogs, of is their only activity for most in that work by having their own dogs) to wolf or wild dog keeping, not unalike in the US there are many hunters who use hounds whom may see that as an alternative job handling pack canidae(re: A national Geographic article where one hunter much of his life kept more than fifty bloodhounds for hunting and hunting was his only job).

Some would say that its the domain of a scientific major in environmental science of canidae keeping e.g. a National Park and Wildlife officer,No!(there is obviously an alike). Or, if they do recognise the pure hands on requirement of direct social relationship with the animals, then as usual a governament would try to stretch each personal keepers arms accross to the next piece of territory from where his official location station is for economics sake.This last point about a government assigning a person as a resource gets worse, if there is a downturn of funding economically it simply drops the position of the resource then attempts some force of handing it to another assigned employee not dissimilar to the stretched resource arrangement previously mentioned.
Governements are known perfectly, so are business and big business(reasonably exempt from attempting to ply a responsibility here because the territories they use are either granted or is not for statement to imply or impart as existent entity).

Winning by luck against time and few resources is one thing, but it does not justify being a loser if "that" occurs, a loser cannot win because it's over, it's finnished.